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There is a crappy aftermarket steel 3 core in there now, needs replacing, want to go back to OEM.

It (new OEM I am buying) has the quick disconnect connections for the transmission lines - the aftermarket (currently in Jeep - one I'm replacing) has the 3/8" barbed nipples on it. When I saw the setup, I didn't take possession of it, if it doesn't work out I don't want to get stuck with 15% restock fee.

At the dealer the only options are full lines at $150 after tax - I haven't looked but can both lines be replaced easily? If I have to go that route, which I'd rather not.

What are other options? I do not think the male end of quick disconnect is available anywhere but if they please share who makes them.

I'd hate to void my warranty, especially after seeing the condition of that box and the amount of dust on the radiator but can the male end of the disconnects be removed and replaced with a standard hose barb fitting?

Thanks
 
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Here is what I currently have - these rubber cooler hoses connect to hard line under the ps pump with oem clamps. Connected to radiator with oem clamps onto brass hose barbs. (pic at the bottom of this post)



Those look kind of like the connection on the new OEM radiator, I have rubber hose at the radiator end, I think I'm wrong in my first post, I think (could be wrong) that the radiator has the female end and the line would have a male end hard line tip connected to the rubber - IDK, I'm lost....I can't find a pic of the line they sell, just a drawing.

Buy a few feet of 3/8" transmission hose and four hose clamps and be happy. Later year models came fron the factory that way.
How would I connect to the new radiator? It has a connection very similar to what Sinister linked to.
 
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These are the lines sold at dealership - from cartoon, it appears that there is a hard line that plugs into radiator connection.

 
How would I connect to the new radiator? It has a connection very similar to what Sinister linked to.
Evidently, I failed to correctly decipher the meaning of "it" and "aftermarket." Maybe it would be better to use terms like "current radiator" and "replacement radiator."

There is a crappy aftermarket steel 3 core in there now, needs replacing, want to go back to OEM.

It has the quick disconnect connections for the transmission lines - the aftermarket has the 3/8" barbed nipples on it.

In any case, I suspect it would be possible to replace the QD fittings with hose barbs. Unfortunately, thread size varies with manufacturer, so finding the correct size might be a challenge. The current ones might or might not fit.

What are other options?
Buy a Mopar radiator for an '02 - '04 model. (p/n55037654AB)
It will come with hose barbs that should work for your current configuration.
 
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Evidently, I failed to correctly decipher the meaning of "it" and "aftermarket." Maybe it would be better to use terms like "current radiator" and "replacement radiator."




In any case, I suspect it would be possible to replace the QD fittings with hose barbs. Unfortunately, thread size varies with manufacturer, so finding the correct size might be a challenge. The current ones might or might not fit.



Buy a Mopar radiator for an '02 - '04 model. (p/n55037654AB)
It will come with hose barbs that should work for your current configuration.
Tangofox

I try to be descriptive in posts, just in a hurry tonight - went back and edited.Thanks.

I did not bring the new radiator home, but looking at it briefly at the dealership I'm not so sure of those fittings will screw out or not - that's the first thing I looked at, that would be best solution, but it wasn't obvious, the only way to know is finish the $300 sale and start cranking on it with channellocks, can't afford to do that without knowing for sure I could replace with a usable fitting. You are right that it could be some kind of proprietary thread if it does come off. That's why I'm here, hoping against hope someone knows.

I ordered the Mopar radiator from moparwholesaleparts, it is p/n55037653AB, the one their website shows for my jeep based on VIN (it's a 2001, 4.0 with auto trans).

I'm not so sure that the original jeep radiator had those disconnects, I didn't change the radiator so I can't say for sure. But if the p/n55037654AB has hose barbs for a 02' you'd think the p/n55037653AB would also have hose barbs - All I do know for sure, the radiator they slide across the counter has the quick disconnect fittings.

Do you know for sure that p/n55037654AB has hose barbs? Also, is your rig a 2.5l or 4.0l? Looked at your profile and it doesn't say but I'm wondering if there is a difference in the radiators - not sure a 2002 radiator will bolt right in on an 01'. Those years are usually separated for parts I've noticed.

I'm trying to find out if maybe they have the right part number, wrong part - I've seen that before but it is really hard to find actual pictures of new parts, they're all those darn drawings that are useless, besides being a drawing, they never show the angle you want to see.




I replaced mine and used regular hose clamps and no leaks!
Jeeplover did you recently change your radiator? Did you use Mopar? Do you happen to know part number?
 
Tangofox

I try to be descriptive in posts, just in a hurry tonight - went back and edited.Thanks.

I did not bring the new radiator home, but looking at it briefly at the dealership I'm not so sure of those fittings will screw out or not - that's the first thing I looked at, that would be best solution, but it wasn't obvious, the only way to know is finish the $300 sale and start cranking on it with channellocks, can't afford to do that without knowing for sure I could replace with a usable fitting. You are right that it could be some kind of proprietary thread if it does come off. That's why I'm here, hoping against hope someone knows.

I ordered the Mopar radiator from moparwholesaleparts, it is p/n55037653AB, the one their website shows for my jeep based on VIN (it's a 2001, 4.0 with auto trans).

I'm not so sure that the original jeep radiator had those disconnects, I didn't change the radiator so I can't say for sure. But if the p/n55037654AB has hose barbs for a 02' you'd think the p/n55037653AB would also have hose barbs - All I do know for sure, the radiator they slide across the counter has the quick disconnect fittings.

Do you know for sure that p/n55037654AB has hose barbs? Also, is your rig a 2.5l or 4.0l? Looked at your profile and it doesn't say but I'm wondering if there is a difference in the radiators - not sure a 2002 radiator will bolt right in on an 01'. Those years are usually separated for parts I've noticed.

I'm trying to find out if maybe they have the right part number, wrong part - I've seen that before but it is really hard to find actual pictures of new parts, they're all those darn drawings that are useless, besides being a drawing, they never show the angle you want to see.





Jeeplover did you recently change your radiator? Did you use Mopar? Do you happen to know part number?
yes I changed it a few months ago. I do not know the part number but autozone can tell you. I bought mine at a local junk yard that also sells new OEM parts. I also flushed my heater core same time. It was not mopar but a heck of a lot cheaper. about a 100$ cheaper than autozone.
 
Discussion starter · #12 · (Edited)
Since I deal with high heat here I put a external cooler & complying bypassed the lower radiator tank. Just used rubber transmission line.
AZ01TJ,
I've thought of that, the automatic trans radiator is $100 more so I'll have wasted $100 but in any event, where did you mount the external cooler? It's worth exploring, I live near Phoenix AZ too so I know the heat!

Edit: If you put it front behind the grill - assuming you have a/c in the desert but want to confirm. if so, did you have to remove the condenser or just loosen it and move out of way?
 
I did not bring the new radiator home, but looking at it briefly at the dealership I'm not so sure of those fittings will screw out or not -
The dealership would have been the place to ask those questions while you had the radiator in your hands. They would have likely removed them for you if they can be. Or offered up a solution to your issue.

AZSobo said:
I'd hate to void my warranty, especially after seeing the condition of that box and the amount of dust on the radiator but can the male end of the disconnects be removed and replaced with a standard hose barb fitting?
Just because a box or part is dusty doesn't mean the part is damaged. Just means that they don't sell a lot of that part.

AZSobo said:
I ordered the Mopar radiator from moparwholesaleparts, it is p/n55037653AB, the one their website shows for my jeep based on VIN (it's a 2001, 4.0 with auto trans).
What makes you think that the unit from Mopar Wholesale is going to be different than the one from the dealership?
 
Dealerships are not primarily in the parts business. For them, parts is just a necessary nuisance. From all indications, the dealership put the wrong part on the counter.
Say what????? How do they do all those repairs in shop if they aren't in the parts business???

People do make mistakes, then again if the questions were asked at the time, it's likely that those fittings thread in or possibly had an OEM adapter, or could be they have the correct unit in stock and the parts person simply grabbed the wrong box.
 
Say what????? How do they do all those repairs in shop if they aren't in the parts business???
My son-in-law works in a major dealership parts department. The boy knows almost nothing about parts. He could not pick a fuel injector out of a ball joint line-up. He can't even change his own oil. But he is the assistant manager in the parts department.
 
My son-in-law works in a major dealership parts department. The boy knows almost nothing about parts. He could not pick a fuel injector out of a ball joint line-up. He can't even change his own oil. But he is the assistant manager in the parts department.
No offense intended but, that's sad....Guess he's lucky to have that job.

I can't speak for all the dealerships but, the Ford and Dodge dealers around here have some very knowledgeable parts people. That actually have to factory certified in order to keep their jobs.
 
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From looking at pictures on Rockauto.com, it looks like you may have been shown p/n 55037653AC, which fits the '05-'06 models and features female QD fittings. 55037653AB should have hose nipples.
I'm hoping that there is a p/n stamped in the radiator itself, I'm heading back up there in a bit.





The dealership would have been the place to ask those questions while you had the radiator in your hands. They would have likely removed them for you if they can be. Or offered up a solution to your issue.



Just because a box or part is dusty doesn't mean the part is damaged. Just means that they don't sell a lot of that part.



What makes you think that the unit from Mopar Wholesale is going to be different than the one from the dealership?
I did have all those questions, unfortunately my Jeep is down, I had to wait for my wife to get home with our other vehicle to go last evening. I didn't get there until 5:45 and there were other customers. At 6pm the conversion stopped and they shut it down, that was that. The guy at the counter offered one solution that he knew of, order new lines that supposedly would fit the radiator, you can't really see what fitting is on each line because all they have is drawings with ambiguous ends.

It's a Mopar dealership, the regular parts counter and the wholesale or internet divisions, when you will call parts from the internet division (which is considerably less $$) they get picked up at the dealership it's a long story but it's like dealing with Oz - any questions are asked over the phone to the internet division, Oz was gone so there were no answers. Oz is gone until Monday so if I have any questions when I head back up there, I probably won't get any answers.

I don't think the parts are different from wholesale to dealership ---as long as it is the correct part, that is what I'm questioning, and actually hoping to be honest, I've have seen the right box, right part #, wrong part. I'm sure it doesn't happen often but it does happen. If this is the case, the correct part can be ordered and this will be a non-issue.
 
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They were trying to give me wrong radiator p/n 55037653AC when it should have been 55037653AB.

Also replacing water pump which has a new problem - have bad luck with this Jeep....
 
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